Son of Caspian Projects owner testifies

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WINNIPEG — A key Caspian Projects employee testified that his father, company owner Armik Babakhanians, once said former Winnipeg mayor Sam Katz and then-deputy city chief administrative officer Phil Sheegl wanted $4 million in exchange for the police headquarters contract.

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WINNIPEG — A key Caspian Projects employee testified that his father, company owner Armik Babakhanians, once said former Winnipeg mayor Sam Katz and then-deputy city chief administrative officer Phil Sheegl wanted $4 million in exchange for the police headquarters contract.

Shaun Babakhanians, a former project manager of Caspian Projects, testified Thursday at the provincial inquiry into the Winnipeg Police Service headquarters project.

He was asked about the time his father met with him shortly after speaking with Sheegl on Feb. 17, 2011. On that date, Armik Babakhanians sent himself an email stating he expected Sheegl to get approval for the project, the inquiry previously heard.

Former Caspian Projects project manager Shaun Babakhanians testifies at the Winnipeg Police Service Headquarters Inquiry on Thursday. (Ruth Bonneville/Winnipeg Free Press)

Former Caspian Projects project manager Shaun Babakhanians testifies at the Winnipeg Police Service Headquarters Inquiry on Thursday. (Ruth Bonneville/Winnipeg Free Press)

“However, I think he wanted 2+2 for sam and phil but the rest for us,” the email states.

It also notes “This will remain confidential for ever.”

On Thursday, Heather Leonoff, the legal counsel for the provincial inquiry, asked Shaun Babakhanians about a conversation he had with his father that day.

“He came to my house and told me that Sam and Phil wanted $4 million and I said no and he left,” answered Babakhanians.

“And did you ever hear anything more about this over the period of time the contract went on?” asked Leonoff.

“No, ma’am,” he answered.

Shortly after the statement, lawyer Evan Roitenberg, who is representing Sheegl at the inquiry, arrived at the hearing room and asked to cross-examine the witness on the unexpected comment.

Roitenberg noted Armik Babakhanians did not specify the word “millions” in the “2+2” part of the email and noted the company owner had testified he was not certain what was meant by “two and two.”

Under questioning, Shaun Babakhanians confirmed he made no notes of the conversation with his father, could not recall his exact words and was not part of the earlier conversation with Sheegl.

He said he remembers the gist of the conversation with his father, though he clarified that his own response at the time included “f— no,” stating he had not wanted to swear at the inquiry.

“If, in fact, what had been sought had been money, and I’m certainly not suggesting that that’s what was being talked about … nothing about money had ever come up again to your knowledge?” asked Roitenberg.

“No mention of money ever came up again,” said Babakhanians, also noting no one ever approached him to ask for money.

Armik Babakhanians, Sheegl and former mayor Sam Katz all previously testified at the inquiry that no bribe took place to secure the contract to build the police headquarters.

Shaun Babakhanians said he worked for Caspian Projects from about 2005 to 2016.

» Winnipeg Free Press

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